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rromvoucher
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Post by rromvoucher » Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:31 pm

How do you add ornaments that actually play? I added them using the Symbol box, and they appear but nothing plays. What am I doing wrong?


Zapruder
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Post by Zapruder » Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:14 pm

Hi,

Indeed, the Symbols should be used only in special cases that need no playback.
All ornaments can be constructed from the 2nd Keypad (F9):

- Under the / and * keys of the numeric Keyboard, you'll find the two types of ornaments.
- You can add as much notes as you want
- With the keys of the 1st Keypad (F8), you can select the rhythmic values of the ornament
- Also, if you like, you can add a slur to the ornament, just as you would do with normal notes: hit S (and stretch with the Space Bar).

This type of ornament WILL play back.

Let me know if this helped.

Be well, Zap
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rromvoucher
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Post by rromvoucher » Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:48 pm

What about mordents and turns? That gives appoggiatura and acciaccatura, trills can be done through the Line menu, just the others - mordents and turns!

Zapruder
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Post by Zapruder » Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:14 pm

Major "Ooops" here, and "Sorry!"

You're right about the other ornaments. You see, I just don't care about playback: I know how it will sound when played live.
Sometimes I *do* have to make a demo and what I then do is this:
- I write the appropriate ornament using Symbols (as you mentioned)
- In voice 2 (or whatever voice I did not use) I write the ornament as it should sound (in the same staff!)
- I pull all the notes of the ornament together (to the left, on top of each other) so the note spacing of Voice 1 is correct
- I then hide the "sounding ornament notes" (Select Voice, then Ctrl+Shift+H)

I know, it's a big workaround but it does the job.
Again, sorry for being incomplete in my first answer.

Be well, Zap
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Sebasian
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Post by Sebasian » Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:34 am

rromvoucher wrote:How do you add ornaments that actually play?
Don't forget the "Ornament Playback" plug-in (Plug-ins > Playback). It only does a restricted range of ornaments, but it might save you some time.

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