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Crescendo/descrescendo does not work.

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:41 pm
by lacatedral
Whenever I type H or SHIFT+H to create crescendos or decrescendo and press P to play it doesn't happen anything. They appear in the music sheet but they have no effect, I also tried inputting Forte and Piano dynamics to test it but nothing.

Re: Crescendo/descrescendo does not work.

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:55 pm
by bobp
Use hairpins for crescendo/decrescendo. Select a note where the dynamic starts, hit "L".
Unless you want an accent. That is on the onscreen keypad.

Re: Crescendo/descrescendo does not work.

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:28 pm
by lacatedral
bobp wrote:Use hairpins for crescendo/decrescendo. Select a note where the dynamic starts, hit "L".
Unless you want an accent. That is on the onscreen keypad.
I enter a note in one bar and another in the next one, then clicked the first note, CTRL+E for expression then CTRL+PP. Then clic the second one and enter CTRL+F for forte.
Then I clic the first note and press L and select the hairpin, still, the crescendo does not seem to work, the volume goes from piano and then rightaway a forte.

Re: Crescendo/descrescendo does not work.

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:10 pm
by bobp
I agree that dynamics don't always work as I expect, depending on the voices used.
I just created a treble line piece with three whole notes. Note 1-pp, note 2-ff,note 3-pp with crescendo and decrescendo in between. There was a gradual increase and decrease in volume, but not as much of a change as there would be if I were playing in myself.
I'm note sure why you use ctrl before the dynamic. It just seems to print it in bold, which takes up space.
You can change the volume for dynamics in the dictionary.
What sound are you using where the hairpins don't work. I've noticed that they don't work well in vocals.

Re: Crescendo/descrescendo does not work.

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:55 pm
by lacatedral
bobp wrote:I agree that dynamics don't always work as I expect, depending on the voices used.
I just created a treble line piece with three whole notes. Note 1-pp, note 2-ff,note 3-pp with crescendo and decrescendo in between. There was a gradual increase and decrease in volume, but not as much of a change as there would be if I were playing in myself.
I'm note sure why you use ctrl before the dynamic. It just seems to print it in bold, which takes up space.
You can change the volume for dynamics in the dictionary.
What sound are you using where the hairpins don't work. I've noticed that they don't work well in vocals.
I tried with violins, bassoons and flute but the crescendo does not work in any of them. Indeed, pressing CTRL before a dynamic bolds it but it's done for an aesthetic reason.

Re: Crescendo/descrescendo does not work.

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:22 pm
by andyg
Using Ctrl before the dynamic not only boldens it but puts it into the correct font for dynamics, so aesthetics is indeed the reason for using it.

Re: Crescendo/descrescendo does not work.

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:34 pm
by bobp
Check the play tab. Turn off Live Playback and Velocities. They cancel written dynamics.

Re: Crescendo/descrescendo does not work.

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:30 am
by lacatedral
Tried turning off Live Playback and velocities, still the same.

I'm creating a tie (I think that's how you call it in english) in which the first note is Piano and then the last one is Forte.
If I erase the tie, the crescendo works but you can hear two separate notes instead of one played long enough.

Re: Crescendo/descrescendo does not work.

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:09 am
by bobp
OK, this gives me more to go on. You had not mentioned the tie before. Anything else? My Sibelius computer is out of commission for a day or two for maintenance.