Brass Band Template

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Post by Fjell » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:04 pm

Hi.

Haven't used Sibelius for 15+ years, and have forgotten all I once learned at school. Trying to work my way back and it's a slow process. One thing I remember is that you had ready templates or quick start scores to choose from, and it still does, but i can't seem to find a brass band template. Remember we used it back then and could start arranging or composing straight away. Is it located someplace I haven't looked? Orchestra, choir and everything else seem to be there, so it seems strange that a brass band template isn't available at the same place.

Thanks in advance.


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Post by bobp » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:38 am

Or you could take a few minutes and make your own and save it as a house style.
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Post by Fjell » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:55 am

There are several instruments missing from the database such as Cornet in Eb, Tenor Horn, Flugel Horn etc. I was hoping there was a template ready to avoid having to change the entire score with wrong instruments and transpose to be able to use the playback option properly.

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Post by MikeLyons » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:12 pm

If these instruments are missing, are you looking at the All Instruments list?
Band Instruments is more akin to American marching bands than brass bands.
There should be a template already set up with is a reasonnable starting point. Turn on the Quick Start dialog temporarily (I actually have it there all the time) it's listed in my version under Band-->Brass Band.
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Post by Fjell » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:33 pm

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That is the problem. The only available template in my quick start band category is School Band K-5. That's why I wondered if I would have to download other templates somewhere?

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Post by MikeLyons » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:43 pm

OK, Reality check - are you using the full version of sibelius or one of the cut-down versions?
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Post by Fjell » Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:44 pm

Have paid for a Sibelius license so I assumed that was what I paid for.

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Post by bobp » Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:00 pm

Yes, but what version did you buy a licence for, and when?
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Post by MikeLyons » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:22 pm

When the splash screen shows, does the word "Ultimate" appear at any point?
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Post by Fjell » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:51 pm

Bought a perpetual license last year according to my invoice, and renewal this year.

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Post by MikeLyons » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:11 am

You've not answered our question. Do you Have Sibelius Ultimate or just plain Sibelius?

If you only have Sibelius, then you will have a restricted list of instruments.
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Post by Fjell » Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:38 pm

Sorry about that. No, I haven't seen Ultimate mentioned anywhere, so I guess not. Was not aware of any restrictions or limitations. Sounds to me like selling a car with 3 wheels, half an engine and a 3/4 transmission.

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Post by MikeLyons » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:52 pm

Some time ago now, Avid re-branded their Sibelius products.

They introduced a free version which they called Sibelius First - Very, very restricted.
The re-named the old Sibelius First as Sibelius - Very limited (Crippled IMO)
They renamed Sibelius as Sibelius Ultimate - Fully featured.

If you have the latter version, it will display Sibelius Ultimate on the splash screen when it is booting up.
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Post by Fjell » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:53 pm

Thanks for clearing things up. Fooled again. :?

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Post by laurencepayne » Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:17 pm

Avid are perfectly aware of the potential for confusion with the re-naming of Sibelius versions. They seem sympathetic to requests to move your subscription to the version you should have bought. (Not for free, of course, but you won't have to buy the whole thing twice!) Open a support case at your Avid account, or post on one of the more mainstream Sibelius groups where Avid people are listening. Like: www.sibelius.com/cgi-bin/helpcenter/cha ... ?groupid=3

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