Deleting triplets

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Post by oleedd » Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:51 pm

If I delete "3", notes are deleted as well, but I need them to remain. How to do this?


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Post by andyg » Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:57 pm

Don't delete the 3. You have the option to show numbers or not, and a lot of other options as well. All explained fully in the Reference Manual (F1). Search for 'tuplets' or 'triplets'.

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Post by oleedd » Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:02 pm

It is not about hiding "3". I need to delete triplets, but not the notes of them.

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Post by oleedd » Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:42 pm

I even can't copy these notes. It inserts only 1 note and a lot of very small pauses around it. I have triplets of 16-ths.

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Post by MikeLyons » Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:52 pm

If you don't want triplets, don't put them in.
You can't undo them except by hand.
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Post by oleedd » Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:21 pm

They are already there. I have to remake the rhythm. There are many measures I have to change. It even doesn't want to copy and paste noteheads of triplets.

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Post by KJ_Palmer » Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:50 am

Just put them in then. Unfortunately there's no magic fix for this, in Sibelius at least. Once the rhythm is in there it can be hard to break it. You would probably have had them done by now....
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Post by MikeLyons » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:24 am

When you say "they are already there" how? Did you use photoscore? If so, change the setting for tuplet recognition to not read triplets.
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Post by oleedd » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:56 am

"When you say "they are already there" how?" - I don't type, I change the rhythm.
"If so, change the setting for tuplet recognition to not read triplets" - how? I need to make another rhythm with these notes.
The task is:
Image
I hope you will understand by this image. So it should be like the second half, but with a pause in the beginning. It is just the rhythm. All notes are different.
TBH, I wanted to copy noteheads and paste.

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Post by MikeLyons » Wed Apr 03, 2024 12:27 pm

oleedd wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:56 am
" I don't type, I change the rhythm." How did the notes get there in the first place? Who put the triplet in?
"I need to make another rhythm with these notes." Copy the rhythm from the next beat and then delete the first demisemiquaver.

"TBH, I wanted to copy noteheads and paste."
You can't do that with a triplet - it's all or nothing. the number isn't just a piece of text, it directly affects the note lengths and rhythmical placing. Sibelius has always had a poor handling of triplets
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Post by oleedd » Wed Apr 03, 2024 12:48 pm

"How did the notes get there in the first place? Who put the triplet in?" - I did that a while ago and now I see that it was wrong decision.

"Copy the rhythm" - how to copy and paste the rhythm (without notes because they are different)?

"You can't do that with a triplet" - and even copy and paste triplet notes to make regular notes can't be done?

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Post by MikeLyons » Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:29 am

In the image, you show a bar with two rhythms. You say the first beat is wrong and it should be like the 2nd beat. If so, copy the 2nd beat rhythm onto the first beat, replacing the rhythm already there ([ctrl]c, [ctrl]v) then use the up/down arrows to change the pitch. It's not difficult.
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Post by oleedd » Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:41 am

The thing is the notes are generally different (even more than octave). Faster to type from scratch than what you propose.
But it is not coping only the rhythm, it is coping all. It would be awesome if there is a plugin to transfer rhythm from one note group to another.

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Post by MikeLyons » Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:42 pm

Try Renotate performance. That might help. Don't know if it handles tuplets, though.
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Post by oleedd » Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:20 pm

Yes, it handles. Thanks, it is a good solution. But 1 more bug: moving the first group (7 notes) with [ctrl][alt] breaks the beams of the second group. Why? Also, it moves only the first note if to select only beams.
Example .sib file: https://fex.net/s/tslrsv9

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