Key and time signature collision on transposing instruments

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ssteinberg
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Post by ssteinberg » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:22 pm

I am making a full orchestra score and have an issue on collision of key and time signature of transposing instruments upon key and time change.

Space between key signature and time signature is apparently based on non-transposing instruments. Thus, when transposing instruments have more sharps/flats than non-transposing instruments upon key and change, the key signature of the transposing instruments collide with the time signature.

In the "Engraving Rules > Clefs and Key Signatures", "Gap after initial def/key signature" can be defined, but this applies only to the "initial" key signatures that are on the left end of the score, but not to the key change in the middle of the page.

Is there any solution?
Sibelius 6, Windows

Thank you,

SSteinberg
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bobp
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Post by bobp » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:21 pm

Select the time signature you want to move. Open the Inspector. Raise the X value to move the signature to the right.
Bob Porter
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ssteinberg
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Post by ssteinberg » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:39 pm

bobp wrote:Select the time signature you want to move. Open the Inspector. Raise the X value to move the signature to the right.
Amazing, though Sibelius 6 does not seem to have the Inspector, but it can be done in the property window. I will have to tweak every issue manually, but I assume this will solve my problem eventually. Thank you so much.

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Post by bobp » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:45 am

Drat, sorry. If it's any comfort, key changes collide. in 7.5 also.
Bob Porter
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MikeLyons
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Post by MikeLyons » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:03 am

Does [ctrl/cmd][shift]n with the bars selected across the change not correct this?
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ssteinberg
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Post by ssteinberg » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:30 pm

MikeLyons wrote:Does [ctrl/cmd][shift]n with the bars selected across the change not correct this?
Wow! You're right. So easy. Thank you so very much!

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