moving whole sections of a score

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jcpratt
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Post by jcpratt » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:39 pm

The scenario is: I have an orchestral score that has multiple sections, not necessarily all the same length, and I want to move them around relative to each other -- call them A B C D E F, I want to try A C E B D F.... or just, say, B A C D E F... etc. Now, I *can* do that by inserting empty bars, cutting and pasting into them, and then deleting the now empty ones... but that's a bit of a pain. It would be nice to be able to select and maybe cut a section, and then choose an insertion point and paste -- but automatically move the existing bars from that point on, to accommodate the new bars without overwriting the existing music. In other words, paste without overwrite... Suggestions? Thanks.
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Post by MikeLyons » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:32 pm

Use a system selection. This will automatically insert the new bars in the new place, moving existing music to either side. You just have to be careful how you do it.
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Post by jcpratt » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:56 pm

Aha! Thanks. So, looking up "selections and passages"... ctrl-click seems to be the trick? This would be when selecting the section that I need to copy/move? (I would have thought ctrl-paste, or some such, more intuitive... but whatever works!)
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Post by MikeLyons » Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:30 pm

[ctrl]-click makes a system selection. It does not copy anything to the clipboad. You need to extend the selection to cover the bars you want and then [ctrl]c or [ctrl]x and then [ctrl[v] it into place.
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Post by jcpratt » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:05 am

Ok, so now I am again confused... isn't ctrl-v just paste? What makes it insert as opposed to overwriting?
Apologies for my denseness... ;)
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Post by MikeLyons » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:59 am

What makes it insert is the fact that it was a system selection rather than just a passage selection. A passage selection will paste over other music. A system selection will insert itself into the new place, movimg bars after the insertion point to fit.
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Post by bobp » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:54 pm

I think, perhaps, that I would just create a new blank score and copy and paste sections into it in the order I wanted them.
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Post by jcpratt » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:11 pm

Mike: Ah, that clears it up.
Bob: Yes, I've used that trick before, but was looking for something easier for this one project. Figured there had to be a way to accomplish this without the overhead of potentially many versions hanging around (I am easily confused).

Thank you both for your help!

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