Appoggiatura too close

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Peter123
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Appoggiatura too close

Post by Peter123 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:27 pm

Hi folks,

Sibelius puts the appoggiatura (grace note) too close for my taste. I can drag them around, but is there a more general way to fix this? Thanks. Peter

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andyg
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Re: Appoggiatura too close

Post by andyg » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:32 pm

Appearance>House Style>Note Spacing Rule has a couple of options you can try out.

Peter123
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Re: Appoggiatura too close

Post by Peter123 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:53 pm

Thanks Andy, that did the trick!!!

Is there a way to re-edit my many already existing grace notes, adjusted by hand?

KJ_Palmer
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Re: Appoggiatura too close

Post by KJ_Palmer » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:50 pm

You could apply Reset Note Spacing (also under Appearance). You might want to be careful if you apply this to the whole score as it may move other things around too much.
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Peter123
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Re: Appoggiatura too close

Post by Peter123 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:18 pm

OK., thanks again!

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Re: Appoggiatura too close

Post by Peter123 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:24 am

It seems that Sib7 doesn't remember my settings and returns to default after start up. How to fix?

KJ_Palmer
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Re: Appoggiatura too close

Post by KJ_Palmer » Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:40 pm

Your settings will only apply to the score you changed them in, and should have been retained for good when you saved it.

To re-use the same settings on other scores you can save them with Appearance > House Style > Export, and Import them to a new score.

There are some options in Import that you can tick/untick (including Note spacing) if you don't want them all.
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Peter123
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Re: Appoggiatura too close

Post by Peter123 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:24 am

Your settings will only apply to the score you changed them in.

Really? That's not so great...

andyg
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Re: Appoggiatura too close

Post by andyg » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:11 pm

Not so great? Not a problem - jut re-read the post above. You can export a House Style with those settings and import it to (or rather impose it on) other scores.

And you can create a Manuscript Paper with the changes to the settings in it, that you can then use to create new scores.

Peter123
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Re: Appoggiatura too close

Post by Peter123 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:13 am

I usually overwrite old documents, that's why.

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Re: Appoggiatura too close

Post by MikeLyons » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:08 am

If you create a MSS paper (export Manuscript paper) from a file that has all your changes and also export a house style (Appearance->House Style->Export) you can preserve your settings by using the MSS paper as a starting point (it will appear on the Quick Start Screen and in the New dialog) Choose it to start new pieces.

You can create as many templates for different ensembles as you like in this way that can be re-used and won't be erased when you save.
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Peter123
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Re: Appoggiatura too close

Post by Peter123 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:00 am

Thanks, I'll consider that!

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