Printing Does Not Match Score?

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sus4
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Post by sus4 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:09 pm

Something just occurred that never happened. When I go to print out my score, the score in Sibelius looks perfect. When I go into the print mode, it's showing an incomplete measure on one of the pages and when I hit print, it prints out with the incomplete measure. When I go back to my original score I can adjust some of the measures and it looks perfect. When I go back into the Print mode it shows the incomplete measure and it will print out like that.
Thanks for any help.


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Post by MikeLyons » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:19 pm

We're unlikely to be able to helpthrough guess work. You need to show us the actual sib file. My best guess would be that you have dragged one or more barlines around and this is showing up in the printout. however, we can only guess. You should also tell us your machine specs (OS etc) and the make and model of your printer.
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Post by sus4 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:59 pm

Mac OS Mojave V. 10.14.5
Epson XP 410 Printer
As you can see the actual score shows bar 36 as a full measure and in Print mode it shows bar 36 as a half measure and this is what I would get when I print it out. If you need more information please let me know.
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Post by bobp » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:15 am

Check paper size in printer settings and Sibelius.
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Post by MikeLyons » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:39 am

I agree with Bob. Check that your printer page size matches the one set in sib. Basically, you are printing some of the music 'off the page'. In the print dialog, choose Scale --> fit to paper to see if that will help.
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Post by sus4 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:03 pm

I went to Scale Fit to Paper and it worked. It printed out the full measure only without the barline at the end of the bar which is no big deal. The only problem with Fit to Paper is the entire score is smaller and a little harder to read. What I usually do, and it always worked until now, is try to get the biggest print size for the score on the paper which makes it a little bigger and easier to read. So, like I said this never happened before. I'll keep playing with it.
Since we're on this subject of printing out the score, is the a way of either making every page in my score having the same number of bars and or adjusting each page to have different number of bars according to how I want it.
Thanks for your help and replies.

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Post by bobp » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:50 pm

Also, check that your printer paper size is set to "Letter" (8.5x11) and not something like "A4". If you want a score with a lot of instruments to print out bigger, then you'll need to get bigger paper. You'll notice that most published instrumental pieces are produced in a larger format than "Letter".
I think there is a way to get a certain number.of measures per line. Don't know how, because I never use that function.
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Post by MikeLyons » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pm

Has your printer driver been updated recently? Thiis is definitely a disconnect between the margins on the page (i.e. what your printer can manage) and what you are telling sibelius to do.

Have you tried printing/exporting to pdf and printing from that? If so, does it produce any better results?
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Post by sus4 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:42 pm

Trying PDF print out is a good idea, but it's producing the same results as when I choose Fit to Page. It has all the correct measures, but it's printing out a smaller score. I think my printer drivers are up to date, but I'll check it.

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Post by MikeLyons » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:06 am

You need to check these settings (See Image)
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Post by sus4 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:34 pm

Mike, I see you are using A4 instead of US Letter. How come?

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Post by MikeLyons » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:07 pm

We tend to do that in the UK.
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