FIXED: Missing key signature when changing key

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musikteknik
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Post by musikteknik » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:45 am

Hello brainers.

I have not had this issue before but for the first time I write an arrangement in the key of F.
In the middle of the song there is a key change. So far so good.
BUT... There is no change of key signature in the horn section.
The instruments is 'Horn in F' - not the 'Horn with no key'.

When I try to google this I only find that the problem has to do with the 'no key' thing.

Instead of the key signatures Sibelius shows a small square.

I have checked with the inspector and the key signatures is set to be visible.
In the pics you can see what I mean.
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Missing key signatures at change
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Zoomed in at Horn 1
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I dont have a clue how to continue. Any ideas you have will be highly appreciated.

/Tomas
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MikeLyons
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Post by MikeLyons » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:15 pm

Your Horns are Horn in F (No Key) Go to the very beginning of the piece and use change on the home ribbon to change the horns to Horn in F:
Make sure you can see All Instruments (not just common or band)
Select Horn in F from the list and then click where the instrument name is before the first bar.

Do you see those pale rectangles? That is a key change when the instrument selected is a 'no key' instrument.

It doesn't matter what is shown in the inspector. If you have a 'no key' instrument it will NEVER show a key.

Which tier of Sibelius are you on?
Sib 6.2, 7.5 and 2023.6, Windows 11, 32GB RAM, 16TB 7200RPM Storage, 2TB SSD, Note Performer 3.3.2, EWQLSO, EWQLSC, Harmony Assistant and some others. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk

musikteknik
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Post by musikteknik » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:37 pm

One is never too old to learn.
I thought that the name of the part actually was the same as the instrument (and then a number) but nope... it was not.
Thank you very much for your reply. It did the trick. :-)
You learn something new everyday.

MikeLyons
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Post by MikeLyons » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:29 pm

musikteknik wrote:One is never too old to learn.
Amen to that! It's a poor day, indeed, when you don't learn something new!
musikteknik wrote: I thought that the name of the part actually was the same as the instrument (and then a number) but nope... it was not.
Thank you very much for your reply. It did the trick. :-)
You learn something new everyday.
You can name a part anything you like, even 'Fred' but it's the underlying instrument that gives it its characteristics.
Sib 6.2, 7.5 and 2023.6, Windows 11, 32GB RAM, 16TB 7200RPM Storage, 2TB SSD, Note Performer 3.3.2, EWQLSO, EWQLSC, Harmony Assistant and some others. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk

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