chord symbols and font

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louistucci
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chord symbols and font

Post by louistucci » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:55 pm

New user and first post...how do I increase font and lock it while I'm entering chords? I have to manually increase the size after entering each chord.
Thanks..
Louis

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pianowillbebach
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Re: chord symbols and font

Post by pianowillbebach » Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:12 pm

Enter all your chords. Then, select the entire piece. Go to Notations > Noteheads > Type and select the size you want from the gallery.

louistucci
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Re: chord symbols and font

Post by louistucci » Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:33 am

Thanks very much!!!

andyg
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Re: chord symbols and font

Post by andyg » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:56 am

That's not the way to go!

To change chord symbol size, go to Engraving Rules > Chord Symbols > Edit Text Styles

You'll see the options for all the parameters governing chord symbols, including size in the full score and parts. You can set this before you start entering chords, or you can enter your chords, filter and select them all and then change the size.

Of course, if you want to change the actual size of everything in the score, but keeping each thing the same size relative to one another, then simply change the Staff Size in Layout.

If you want your own sized notes, chord symbols etc every time, export a House Style or Manuscript Paper with the settings.

MisterBebop
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Re: chord symbols and font

Post by MisterBebop » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:06 pm

Where do I find Engraving Rules?

MikeLyons
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Re: chord symbols and font

Post by MikeLyons » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:12 am

Here:.
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If you don't know where anything is, can I suggest you read the manual? Press F1 with Sibelius open (or click the little ? at top right) it contains all sorts of useful info, including a comprehensive list of keyboard shortcuts, some examples of things you need to know and an active index.

It's reasonably well written and has a lot of what you need to know. There's nothing stopping you having it open in the bckgroound when sib is running so you can refer to it on-the-fly.
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MisterBebop
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Re: chord symbols and font

Post by MisterBebop » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:46 am

I have Sibelius 2019 (Version 2019.5 build 1469, born on 2019-05-13), and when I go to the file menu (or when I press ctrl + shift + E) here's what I get:
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I have downloaded the manual and it does not seem to have many things I'm trying to find.

For instance:

1) How do I change the width of measures? There are lines with a 7 measure multirest followed by one measure of music, yet both are the same width. I would like to make the measure of music shorter. How do I do that?

2) Speaking of multirests, the directions in the manual do not work for giving me an 8-bar multirest in a certain part while other parts have multirests showing correctly. How do I get rid of the 8 empty measures and make them into one 8-bar multirest?

3) How do I change the font for chord symbols? I don't want to use Times Roman for chord symbols, but for the life of me I don't see where to change the font for chord symbols.

Yes, I'm still a beginner in Sibelius, but after 23 years in Finale using their terminology, often I don't know what Sibelius is calling things that I know by other names. Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

MikeLyons
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Re: chord symbols and font

Post by MikeLyons » Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:31 pm

Then don't just search or scan the manul, read it. Finale is notorious for letting you do things that are wrong. Read the manual and get your head around how sibelius uses the techology and the terms.

If you have 2019.5, take the free update to 2019.9

With all due respect, if that's what you get (why are you going to the file menu?) when you press [ctrl][shift]e then you are not pressing [ctrl][shift]e or your keyboard shortcuts have been altered or you are on a mac where the [ctrl] key is replaced by [cmd].

You don't have to download the manual separately, it comes as part of the package.

You can change the way multirest measures take up spoce in this setting:
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You'll need to explain your second question in better English or give an example.

If you don't want Times Roman, change the font under Text-->Styles-->Chord Symbols. Be aware that your chosen font needs to have the correct glyphs. This usually means it has to be a specific chord symbol font.

23 years in Finale will only have developed/reinforced a number of bad habits. You are going to have to get rid of those.
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MisterBebop
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Re: chord symbols and font

Post by MisterBebop » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:28 am

I still cannot get to Engraving Rules. Ctrl + shift + E gets me nothing. Below is what I see when I start up Sibelius:
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MisterBebop
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Re: chord symbols and font

Post by MisterBebop » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:31 am

Once I have the score open, this is what I see:
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I am still not finding Engraving Rules. I also upgraded to 2019.9 . . . that's not the problem, I don't think. My menu (ribbon?) doesn't look like yours.

MikeLyons
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Re: chord symbols and font

Post by MikeLyons » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:37 am

Show me a screengrab of your Appearance tab.
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If you have 2019.9, then you should have the same buttons on the ribbon as me.
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MisterBebop
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Re: chord symbols and font

Post by MisterBebop » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:17 pm

Here you go:



This looks nothing like yours.

Also, here is my Sibelius info:

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I am really looking forward to finding my Engraving Rules. Thanks, Mike!
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bobp
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Re: chord symbols and font

Post by bobp » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:25 pm

Perhaps look up "Engraving Rules" or "House Styles" in your manual? What is in the Layout tab?
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MikeLyons
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Re: chord symbols and font

Post by MikeLyons » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:15 pm

Tose are NOT the full ribbons.

Go into File-->Preferences and check that you haven't got School Features set up in Keyboard shortcuts. That greays out and/or removes some functionality (quite a lot of it, actually).

Cover up your ID information on that image or remove it completely. That information can be used to steal your account!

With the File-->Help-->About screen open, click on additional information.

A 'splash screen'
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should open up with scrolling info on it, but most importantly it should have the word Ultimate on it. if it doesn't, then this is NOT the full product.

Actually, I've just realised you don't have Ultimate. You have a very much reduced functionality. It's a bit like buying a horse with only 2 1/2 legs and one eye.
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andyg
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Re: chord symbols and font

Post by andyg » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:17 am

And for Heaven's sake, remove the image that shows your product details!

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